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SPOOK
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Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:07 pm
TO: TR

IMAGE PROTOCOL FOR SKINS

I would like to embed Images of KITTENS and FLOWERS in 2 new sets of FF&F TRUE POSITION TOP AND BOTTOM. (64 STICKIES TOTAL) I would utilize the RTF-BACKGROUND feature in Skinner with a pleasing pre-adjusted hue on the image.

TO: legal@etsy.com
UPDATED: RTF-BACKGROUND IMAGE PROTOCOL FOR SKINS Esty_s11



FROM: legal@etsy.com
UPDATED: RTF-BACKGROUND IMAGE PROTOCOL FOR SKINS Esty_s12


TO: TR

Esty's response looks pretty good.
I think the key to using these and others from Esty is the word "COMMERCIAL USE" in the Title.
I will go-ahead and start to build these unless I hear something from you.

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Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:12 pm
Looking at the source of those images, if I wanted to rip the creator off then I could do so directly from the Etsy web site, and that way I'd get the original full quality images.

I suspect by the time they're embedded into a note, the images are going to be both a) much lower resolution and b) harder to extract than from the original web site.

I hope therefore neither of us would run into copyright issues.

Tom
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Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:06 am
I never had any copyright issue thoughts back in the 90s, before the internet, when I was Sistem-Manager/Creator for a 9 phone landline Chat BBS, (with a FTP) written in Pascal (State of the Art. hehe) using DOS. Its all different now, now you don't dare do anything.

Lets see if we can Figure this Copyright thing out.

I found this: https://artrepreneur.com/journal/etsy-copyright-infringement/

Wherein it states:

"As a major online marketplace, one would hope that Etsy would be responsible for infringing items sold on their site. However, Etsy is protected by the “Safe Harbor” provision of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) as long as Etsy is merely a passive conduit for user-generated content. Etsy is providing the forum but does not take part in the manufacturing of any of the goods sold. As such, they have the benefit of the “Safe Harbor” and cannot be sued for infringement."

I think the part: "does not take part in the manufacturing of any of the goods sold."

Disqualifies your Zhorn Web Site from distribution of the Skins with a kitten on the RTF-Bacgroud from Etsy as your Skinner program manufactured them.

And further: (but “takedowns” do not apply because of above)

"Why would the government let companies like Etsy off the hook?

Well, given that copyright law is no-fault, then anytime a user uploads infringing content to companies like Etsy, YouTube, or Vimeo, they could be sued. There is no way a company could operate under those conditions, so Congress carved out an exception so these companies could exist. In return, however, the online provider, such as Etsy, must implement and follow certain procedures.

You may have heard of these procedures under the moniker “takedowns.” If a copyright holder finds their work on Etsy, they can make a takedown request, and Etsy is required to remove the infringing work from its site unless the uploader, which in this case would be an Etsy seller, makes a counterclaim stating that the work is not infringing. At that point, Etsy can allow the work to remain on the site until the case is resolved in court."

Unless I can find a actual License on a package in Etsy theres no way we could use them. Thats to bad, Etsy has some great pics for great prices.

Looks like getting a "Commercial Licence" for the Art is the only way. These will take some looking around and can be be a bit expensive for anything good.

Well, looks like springs sprung, I might take some time off. Please go ahead and post FF&F X50.

Thanks
RLD

P.S. The above: "is protected by the “Safe Harbor” provision of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA)" and "is merely a passive conduit for user-generated content." and the “takedown” provision works perfectly for a FTP, leaving you completely harmless from any litigation if you had a FTP. :).







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